Buster Cockerson wrote:

I am sure the kid is a hit in group therapy (Maryland elementary team building) class. Ms. Hymen, why does little jimmy have boobies bigger than yours?

But I saw the poor kid on the mat last night while mommy was pounding away on two chili dogs. He's taking karate, and is so big he's got an adult large belt and gi. He can't lift his leg more than a foot high, and I'm sure the bully's will learn to defend the shin kicks.[/quote]

The part about little Jimmy having bigger boobies had be rolling!!

I have seen some folks in my kickboxing class start out really fat and lose it like crazy. Some just give up and don't come back but when they apply themselves the fat melts off like an ice cube in hell.

I feel sorry for those neglected kids that are fat. Setting the right example and providing for your kids should be right up there with loving them as a parent. I will never understand this sloth/apathy mindset.

On the flip side I do see some kids, mostly Asian that have fit parents that don't tolerate the sloth mindset. We see them at the park or at the bookstore and you can tell they understand self discipline and aren't piling food in their faces while muttering excuses of genetics.

"WOMEN who have been severely sexually abused as children are twice as likely to be overweight by age 21 than their peers, a study has found...."

"They found women who experienced penetrative sexual abuse before the age of 16 (7.9 per cent of respondents) had a higher body mass index, on average, as young adults than other females in the study. But the link did not hold for men who had been similarly abused (7.5 per cent of respondents)..."

"It has also been suggested that 'comfort eating' may be an adaptive function after childhood sexual abuse," the researchers wrote in the journal Obesity."

First, is there a difference bewteen 'severely sexually abused' and just 'sexually' abused?

In my own experiences over the years working with young ladies who have been through this, and this is anecdotal, girls who have been sexually abused tend to be more sexually mature than females their age, and dress/act the part. I knew a young lady years ago who had been sexually abused by her father horribly. Her "escape" fantasy was she was Marylin Monroe, and she was 1) sexually active, and 2) took very good care of herself physically so people would be attracted to her.

I also suspect that many of the young ladies we see entering the porn industry at fairly young ages 18/19 have been sexually abused. And by in large, none of them are anywhere near being obese.

So, although I am certainly not trying to outwit the journal Obesity, I'm not sure, from what I've seen in my own experience working with the public, that 'severe' sexual abuse causes obesity.

That certainly doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who have been abused and aren't obese, but there is a lot more to it.

Jon

Tensolator wrote:

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"WOMEN who have been severely sexually abused as children are twice as likely to be overweight by age 21 than their peers, a study has found...."

"They found women who experienced penetrative sexual abuse before the age of 16 (7.9 per cent of respondents) had a higher body mass index, on average, as young adults than other females in the study. But the link did not hold for men who had been similarly abused (7.5 per cent of respondents)..."

"It has also been suggested that 'comfort eating' may be an adaptive function after childhood sexual abuse," the researchers wrote in the journal Obesity."

First, is there a difference bewteen 'severely sexually abused' and just 'sexually' abused?

In my own experiences over the years working with young ladies who have been through this, and this is anecdotal, girls who have been sexually abused tend to be more sexually mature than females their age, and dress/act the part. I knew a young lady years ago who had been sexually abused by her father horribly. Her "escape" fantasy was she was Marylin Monroe, and she was 1) sexually active, and 2) took very good care of herself physically so people would be attracted to her.

I also suspect that many of the young ladies we see entering the porn industry at fairly young ages 18/19 have been sexually abused. And by in large, none of them are anywhere near being obese.

So, although I am certainly not trying to outwit the journal Obesity, I'm not sure, from what I've seen in my own experience working with the public, that 'severe' sexual abuse causes obesity.

That certainly doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who have been abused and aren't obese, but there is a lot more to it.

Jon

I realized this when I posted it, just thought it was interesting and b/c my memories are so limited as to what exactly happened to me when I was younger.

I was always very, very heavy and had a drunk StepFather around who was pretty creepy in his own right. I, too, was very sexually active starting at 14. But there was never anything that severe that I remember happening to me from him..

Uuugghhh..

It's too early for this..

You are one heck of a tough lady, C.Ricci!

"This is where FA steps in and states that bothering children at an early age about food and getting fat will give them the foundations for future eating disorders"

This is the equivalent of saying things like:

: Teaching your children to wash their hands will make them obsessive compulsive

: Teaching your children to tidy their rooms will make them obsessed with cleanliness

: Doing the karate class will make them obsessed with exercise

: Sending them to school will make them a workaholic

Or 'maybe', just 'maybe' it will teach them healthy habits so they can look after their body.

Eating disorders and fear of eating this or that comes from (besides things mentally wrong) LACK of information, not from having it.

Just like a person who doesn't know how to drive a car will be worrying if they are doing this or that right, have they done something wrong etc.

A person who knows what they are doing just gets on and does it.

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"This is where FA steps in and states that bothering children at an early age about food and getting fat will give them the foundations for future eating disorders"

My spontaneous response to this is "teh anorexia booga booga!" - sorry, but had to get that off my chest.

I have one piece of purely anecdotal evidence re harassing kids about weight and food, and whether girls will or will not turn anorexic en masse as a result:

Namely, I've probably mentioned before that I used to be a competitive figure-skater as a kid and teen, and was trained by the Soviet methods. That was back in the 1970s when sports nutrition was still very much an undiscovered science in my neck of the woods, but the ideal skater in those days was stick-thin. The skaters also cross-trained with the gymnasts and ballet-dancers, so I have a fairly good idea of their training principles as well.

I was introduced to this world at the age of 7, and it was all about training as hard as possible but eating as little as possible. The girls were on constant diets from the age of 8 or 9, we compared each other's weight and were all worried sick about being too fat - and we were also constantly told by the coaches that we were indeed a bunch of lazy fat-asses and so on... and guess what, none of the girls, not a single one that I know of, developed any form of eating disorder. On the contrary, those I've kept in touch with are of a healthy weight and very active as adults. All of us certainly recognize that the way we were trained was completely wrong (and would probably amount to child abuse today), it wasn't healthy and didn't even produce the best possible results. But no-one suffered any long-term damage either.

It is about discipline and self control.

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Namely, I've probably mentioned before that I used to be a competitive figure-skater as a kid and teen, and was trained by the Soviet methods. That was back in the 1970s when sports nutrition was still very much an undiscovered science in my neck of the woods, but the ideal skater in those days was stick-thin. The skaters also cross-trained with the gymnasts and ballet-dancers, so I have a fairly good idea of their training principles as well.

that's so bad ass.

No big deal, honestly. My point is that young girls may seem frail and vulnerable, but they are much stronger than you'd think - and they won't all swoon, get the vapours and go anorexic if you tell them that they have to mind what they eat and can't have icecream and chocolate every day.

Married2ASweatHog wrote:

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It is about discipline and self control.

And addiction?! Remember?!