Your Right Mary,

Seeing these huge things lurching out of their vehicles into their scooters to get more food, while old ladies walk, makes it hard for me to moderate the site's tone at times.

I think at one point the pendulum swung too far toward to PC.

We were actually running "fit" spouses off. I just couldn't bend over far enough for these people.

NO MATTER WHAT they found something offensive. I took the pictures off the site, not good enough! I added "willingly" to the sub title text, they wanted MORE. I even changed the banner to be less sexist. This just simply lead to next request.

The latest requests now demand that the Title sub text be DELETED entirely. It all comes under the guise of not sounding to harsh or being a hate site.

I am aware such a line exists, but I'm not going to let the apologists draw that line.

Being offended is what they crave. They could not exist without it.

I'm offended that your offended!

I never understood the problem with the old banner (but kept mum, for once, when it was discussed), I remember seeing exactly the same illustration in some official health-authority BMI-demonstration or something. It simply illustrated what the different bmi's look like on average. But whatever, and the new one is okay too.

I sometimes wonder how those crybabies can type with their hooves.

Seriously, they have the right to be offended as much as I have the right to be offended by them. They post all kinds of crap that offends me but instead of falling into the fetal position and whine like them, I choose to deal with it. I suppose they just can't be as tolorant as they expect everyone else to be.

I would like to add my perspective to this particular forum. My wife is 5-3 and 300 pounds+, and I don't think lack of self esteem is her problem. She was 5-3 and 125 when I married her. Her mother, dad and sister are not overweight at all. No one in her family is a severly overweight as she is. So, I do not see how it could be genetic. In a recent conversation with my wife's sister, she told me that her sister--my wife--is an enigma to her. She sees her sister as being so confident, friendly, outgoing and so succesful in so many ways, but her weight seems to be something that she feels that she can do nothing about. I agree with her sister. My wife has has a succesful career as an educator. She is, and has been involved in civic as professional organizations in a leadership capacity. She was president of her sorority in college and very involved in other student activities. She is, and always has been a very good mother to our children, who are now young succesful adults. However, it seems that my wife has decided that weight is one thing in her life over which she has no control, and that me and others should simply accept her as she is. I guess we all have something that we struggle with that has an effect on our life and the way people see us . Mine has always been shyness. Ever heard the expression "the worst thing that someone can say to you is no", which means its no big deal, you haven't lost anything. Well, my response is: you're right, the worst thing they can say is no, which means to me "rejection hurts. But, I came to realize that my shyness can have an effect on the way people perceive me, and I have worked hard to overcome my shyness and become more assertive. Maybe its easier to overcome shyness and the perception of shyness than it is to overcome weight and the perception of overweight. I just don't know, but I just don't think a lack of selfesteem is her problem. Zimm

I will speak bluntly. I think you and your wife are full of crap. Your wife CAN behave responsibly when it come to food. She is nearly 3 times her normal weight. Your wife is not fat. She is super morbidly obese. Her BMI is 53.1. A normal BMI is 18 - 24 for most people.

You need to do an intervention on her. She is committing suicide by food.

Why can't these people take responsibility for their actions? It's irresponsible to continue to live like that. It affects your kids, their friends, everything.

I went to the gym tuesday night and the karate class was going on. Some parents will participate with thier kids, they are usually in good shape. They have bleachers for the families to sit and watch. In the bleachers was a mom and dad who were so big I couldn't get them in my cell phone camera. I stood in awe during my minute rest period as I saw the bleachers bend. Then I saw the kid, who is 8 and easily 150.

Imagine the brutality this kid must experience at school. And the sad thing is, he's just following the example his parents have set.

Buster Cockerson wrote:

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Why can't these people take responsibility for their actions? It's irresponsible to continue to live like that. It affects your kids, their friends, everything.

I went to the gym tuesday night and the karate class was going on. Some parents will participate with thier kids, they are usually in good shape. They have bleachers for the families to sit and watch. In the bleachers was a mom and dad who were so big I couldn't get them in my cell phone camera. I stood in awe during my minute rest period as I saw the bleachers bend. Then I saw the kid, who is 8 and easily 150.

Imagine the brutality this kid must experience at school. And the sad thing is, he's just following the example his parents have set.

I agree. If a kid is overweight it's usually the parents fault. Rarely is it ever an actual physical health problem.
Parents should set an example for their kids, it's part of their job as parents.
My daughter is two years old, and I have already started teaching her about eating healthfully.

dandylioness wrote:

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Buster Cockerson wrote:

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Why can't these people take responsibility for their actions? It's irresponsible to continue to live like that. It affects your kids, their friends, everything.

I went to the gym tuesday night and the karate class was going on. Some parents will participate with thier kids, they are usually in good shape. They have bleachers for the families to sit and watch. In the bleachers was a mom and dad who were so big I couldn't get them in my cell phone camera. I stood in awe during my minute rest period as I saw the bleachers bend. Then I saw the kid, who is 8 and easily 150.

Imagine the brutality this kid must experience at school. And the sad thing is, he's just following the example his parents have set.

I agree. If a kid is overweight it's usually the parents fault. Rarely is it ever an actual physical health problem.
Parents should set an example for their kids, it's part of their job as parents.
My daughter is two years old, and I have already started teaching her about eating healthfully.

What a small world. I see these same parents in their seats as their kids are doing martial arts too and I can tell they don't like looking at us adults working out. I really like the fact that our adult class is full of every age group and enthnicity. They know they could be working out with us while at the same time keeping an eye on their kids because two of our classmates do that.

It is fun seeing the parents try to scurry past like they have such important things to do when the "hot mom" finishes our class and meets up with her kid as the class is finishing. The dads get the evil eye from their dumpy wives if they look at her and the mom either pretend she is not there or give the "sour" face. Both of our classes end at the same time and we can both see each other. No excuse, none.