Calorie lab gives the Fat Acceptance movement all the leeway in the world in their arguments. Then they neatly put FA away in a few paragraphs.

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FAM may or may not gain some traction with the general public with these arguments, but some of their essential points suffer under scrutiny. For one example, while overweight and obesity rates have gone through the roof over the past several decades; our genetic makeup hasn’t changed and the percentage of the population whose genes dispose them to obesity is about what it has always been.

Fat self-acceptance: Noble cause, or flawed rationalization?

Two points.

1. We aren't alone anymore in our scrutinizing of FA. In fact I find more articles critical of FA these days that neutral or positive.

2. The "our genes haven't changed in the last 30 years" is a killer argument for FA. They want to talk about the advent of 'yo 'yo dieting, but no one is going to buy it.

My favorite way of demolishing their arguments is with the laws of physics and thermodynamics.

Basal metabolic rates remain relatively constant. I have nailed them when they claim they are maintaining very high body weights of 900 calories per day. Idiots like Jennifer Portnick prattle on about metabolic set points and they claim that yo yo dieting resets the metabolic set point. Of course it does but these evil sluts lie about how much it changes. They will never give you a real number.

When you lose weight your BMR slows. That is normal. I weigh 150 pounds if some fatty were to drop from 300 to 150 their BMR would drop to about what mine is plus or minus 1.5%.

FA is a big lie. FAM members are either stupid or they are liars. Either way I hate those bastards with a passion. I hate liars.

All FA-lurkers take note now: even though you have the fatty-gene, this gene doesn't protect you from the negative health effects of obesity. Just like with alcohol abuse, some people may be genetically more prone to become alcoholics, but unfortunately their liver isn't any better equipped to withstand an overload of alcohol than the liver of a person without the alcoholic-gene.

So, if you do indeed have a fat gene (which is very doubtful btw), you just have to try a bit harder. The genetic lottery wasn't fair on that one, but you can't fix it with civil rights legislation. The laws of nature don't obey any anti-discrimination movements.

Another note to the lurkers: look around the community of your fellow bloggers. Many of you are over the obese-marker, right? Okay, so 2 out of 3 of you have elevated risks for heart-disease and diabetes. That's what the study showed, never mind what they said in the news-reports when they turned the thing upside down. Look at the numbers, how do you know that you are in the (so far) lucky minority?

I have something of a morbid fascination with the fatty scooter these days, I know, but how does the genetical set point theory explain that? Before the scooters, did the fat people just stay at home and not shop at all or what - or could it, maybe and perhaps, be so simple that until recently people weren't so fat that they couldn't walk?

I don't know. Maybe people THAT large stayed at home in the old days. Or more then likely there weren't that many morbidly obese people at all. Thus the facination of seeing the fat lady at the side shows. Back then it was rare and a freak thing to see someone that was so fat, nowadays it is all to common.

Chris - You are right. They want to talk about "yo-yo dieting" as being responsible for the sharp rise in obesity rates. However, they do not want to discuss the explosion of fast food in this country and the fact that we spend many billions more on that than on dieting. They do not want to talk about high fructose corn syrup and soda and processed, fake food that is being fed to us now. We are like pigs to the slaughter and I cannot for the life of me understand why they don't care about that. It makes me furious, but I guess they don't want to discuss that because they might actually have to stop eating those things.

Hog - All they will say to the laws of thermodynamics and physics is that the human body is too complicated to be explained by such. That it's "just not that simple" and they will leave it to that.

Mary - great points. However, they don't believe that obesity causes health problems. If they do get sick (with diabetes or high blood pressure, etc) they simply say that they were predisposed to being sick and there's no shame in being sick. You know, it's really interesting, but as a group, these are the sickest people I've ever seen. It seems like every one of them is suffering from diabetes, fibromyalgia, PCOS, high blood pressure, and arthritis. They've become so delusional that they don't even care to try to get better. It is learned helplessness and defeatist thinking at their best!

Oh, and they're all also somehow prone to being anorexic! Binge-eating disorder maybe, but anorexia?! Um, no. That's ridiculous.

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However, they don't believe that obesity causes health problems. If they do get sick (with diabetes or high blood pressure, etc) they simply say that they were predisposed to being sick and there's no shame in being sick.

Ah yes, there is that of course - and to them the most important thing in life is to never-ever feel bad about yourself. Never mind the arthritis pain, the diabetes, the wheel-chair and the heart attack, as long as it supposedly wasn't your fault...

And all this is, I gather, based on the likes of Paul Campos and Sandy Szwarc - what part of 'peer review' is it that they don't understand?

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All they will say to the laws of thermodynamics and physics is that the human body is too complicated to be explained by such. That it's "just not that simple" and they will leave it to that.

If that were true, well damn, f*** going to school to be a biochemist then! Who needs me if our metabolism is apparently too complicated to study using the laws of physical chemistry???

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Hog - All they will say to the laws of thermodynamics and physics is that the human body is too complicated to be explained by such. That it's "just not that simple" and they will leave it to that.

You can't just use rhetoric to make the laws of physics go away. As John Adams would say "Facts are stubborn things"

Why don't they argue with the laws of gravity and jump off the top of a building as well.

The body is very complicated but the simple physics of gravity will make it go "splat" at the bottom of the fall.

The 2nd law is not simple. Fatties, especially hormonally challenged fat girls are not going to get it.

I explain metabolism in the most simple terms and they most often get it.

I define calorie, heat/energy and work. When they make outrageous claims of maintaining huge mass with low energy input the end up slam dunking themselves. Then they get personal. If it were legal I would wire their jaws shut and slap them.